Goku vs Saitama (Who Truly Wins This Debate?)

 

Goku feats:

1. Kai, who is in the kingdom of Kaioshin and which exists outside the macrocosm, claims that the collision of the fists of SSJG Goku and Beerus could destroy the entire world and universe 7, which is larger than our universe, since the macrocosm of universe 7 consists of 7 different spaces and times, it has been repeatedly said that each kingdom is infinite in size

And the afterlife itself, as stated in the guide to the 4th world of Daizenzi, is a transcendental kingdom located beyond the infinity of the living universe and being beyond the aisles of the concept of space and time, several times after Goku absorbs God ki into his base form, Goku almost destroyed all of this. Afterwards, Goku's SSJG form in the battle with Jiren became millions of times stronger than in the battle with Beerus.

2. Goku, in ultra instinct, was able to create an entire galaxy from his energy and then absorb it into himself.

3. Goku was able to rise up under the mass of a black hole, the mass of which is infinite in its base form, after which Goku was able to destroy it from the inside.

4. Goku and Jiren moved so fast during their battle that the angels said that they were "out of time and space = immeasurable speed"

5. Goku's body moves automatically without thinking in ultra instinct, Goku dodges any attacks, even, attacks stronger than Goku himself = immeasurable speed.

6. Goku shook the endless world of emptiness with his mere presence = almost infinite power.

7. Goku defeated Moro, who literally eats planets for breakfast, he is almost like a Cosmic Garou only with trillions of times stronger, Moro sucks energy from the environment and copies anyone he touches, he was also able to take away the power of an angel, but Goku still defeated him.

8. Goku was able to defeat the superior cell in the form of ssj, which claimed that he could destroy the galactic nebula, and Goku ssj3 also defeated Buu who could destroy the entire universe.

9. Goku fights with Zamasu who is immortal and Goku uses hakai and almost erases Zamasu (Hax kills immortals) but however Zamasu was able to survive, since Goku did not master Hakai 100%, after Zamasu became much stronger and he declares that he is going to destroy all existing parallel worlds that include all time lines but he was defeated only by the all-powerful Zeno by erasing the entire universe.

10. Goku defeated a hit who has the ability to travel 1 second in time to the future literally appearing before leaving and Goku using the blue + kaioken form was able to overcome the "time jump of hit".

11. Goku is literally higher than the gods, mastered a form that is inaccessible to mortals and gods, Goku is literally almost an angel, he was able to achieve ultra instinct in 780 years according to the universal calendar, which gods who are millions of years old cannot do.

I can scale goku from 6/7D Low Complex Multiversal to Complex Multiversal at immeasurable speed.

What did Saitama show?

- destroyed hundreds of thousands of stars with a serious blow.

- I blew away the gases of Jupiter with a sneeze.

- moved the portals of garou, in the manga it is said that Saitama grabbed the subspace and not the space itself, and in fact this is a weak feat.

- he moved back to the future with the help of the Garou technique, but he himself cannot use it, especially since after the battle he lost his memory.

survived a garou gamma burst which = star explosion/supernova.

scaled at the 3D/multi-solar system level, the speed is about 200x FTL, let's say 1000FTL, it's still nothing for Goku's base.

So based on feats alone

DBS Goku (Base) >>> Saitama